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= Agenda =
== What do I get out of Zombi (Blitzrunde)==
see also [[#Member ideas]]
* Benny
** Playing games together
** meeting up with friends
** discussions
** watching videos together
* bsod
** meeting up with friends
** hoster
** playground / "Homelab"
* lod
** meeting up with friends
** playing muliplayer games with friends
** safe haven
** infrastructure (with the possibility to decide about it and work on it)
* Paul
** Homelab
*** try out enterprise-level things which are not possible to try out by just yourself (from a tech standpoint)
** infrastructure which can be used by everyone
** discuss and improve said infrastructure, learn from each other
* Steffen
** meeting up with friends
** discussions
** Playing games together
** infrastructure
** Sharing Projects with the other Zombies
== What will Zombi look like in 3 years (30min)==
=== Benny ===
* 1-2 new projects
* some members will be gone, about 2-3 new ones
=== Chris ===
* Happy with how things are going
* a few New Members, but probably not technical ones
* Work will not keep people from participating
=== Lod ===
* similar to current state of affairs
* a few new members but not huge amounts
* infrastructure is still maintained and stable
* a few new projects
* a few website iterations
* less alt-right trolls (hopefully...)
=== Paul ===
* Mumble will still exist
* More People will be working, less people will have time.
* Less active projects, since there is less demand.
* Maybe we have found new interested members until then.
* Goal: More members, more skillsharing, more projects, more self-organization and self-organized workshops.
=== Steffen ===
* much like it is right now
* maybe some more people, maybe some old will leave
* hopefully a bit more documentation for the existing projects, more user friendly
== What steps do we need to make to get there (30min)==
* get more members
** paul: make infrastructure more easily usable for all members
*** make it possible to do things without root permissions
*** better documentation might help as well
*** lod, steffen: we don't want to only be a free hoster for other people
** lod: most people aren't here for their personal benefit
*** a lot of them are here because of friendship / shared interests / good vibes in mumble
** paul: keep people here who just visited once or twice
*** lod: I would like to know people better before I will start any projects with them
** steffen: make a playground for projects that is easy to invite others to (that are currently there)
== In what direction do we want to grow ==
=== what kinds of people do we want?===
* new friends (people who are nice to have around)
* people interested in our projects / in setting up new ones
* more players on our servers?
* technical-minded people that can help maintain and improve the infrastructure
=== what can we offer?===
* More than a discord server?
* Own infrastructure (ad-free) (Mail, XMPP, Mumble, Gameservers)
* Money in da bank (maybe not advertise public)
* Cheap membership fee
* swedish vpn & working seedbox setup (maybe not advertise public)
* nice people
* Community events
* WAREZ (maybe not advertise public)
* no public advertisements
* No commitment for participation
=== What more could we offer? ===
* No further changes required
* <nowiki>[ZOM]Clantags</nowiki> for more games?
* lectures for interesting topics for everyone?/members only?
* WORKSHOPS
** announce workshops in before
** Maybe Video recordings of Workshops?
* maybe some events in games we play (goi events, wow raids etc.)
=== how can we reach them?===
* maybe advertise our game servers more on the relevant forums?
* do public workshop streams? (how to advertise them? reddit, forums?)
* Write more mails to get of microsoft's spamlists
* Meet people IRL and drag them in
* Let's Plays?
* Let's Infrastructures? (Such videos are kinda popular on YT)
=== Why do we want to grow in that direction?===
* paul:
** maintain population on mumble
* steffen:
** more people to play, discuss or work with
* mart:
** Reduce Truck Number/Bus Faktor (<https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_Number>)
== how large do we want to become? ==
* lod:** small enough that we still know all of them** only people we can trust with certain topics (ldap and privacy related stuff) * paul:** sustainable (with dropout in mind)** population for workshops** population for service of services/infrastructure ==== do internal advertising for our projects ====* Especially the "Spielwiese" is not well known internally === how many people can we facilitate infrastructure-wise( especially regarding offering new services)?===* "Spielwiese" probably needs to be extended** Mart has a "little" server for school-stuff, still has 16 GB RAM leftover, might be upgraded to 32 GB for zombi** Spielwiese-VM on main servers?* depends largely on kind of services** Mumble: >500 users possible** Mail, XMPP > 1000 users possible (depends on storage)** Userbox < 50 users possible, due to Graphical environment** Minecraft-Servers: Maybe 6 hosted possible (hetzner is gonna burn)
== growth of services ==
===lod: How should our services grow/ evolve?===* mart:** Main-Server: move slow and don't break things** Spielwiese: Grow fast and break things, but add possibility of data retention* bsod** keep critical services old, simple and boring* lod: more methodic planning / discussions about changes** changes should be communicated more publicly** communicate changes when they are planned and not only when it is done ==== Side-Track: Idea for a change approval process ====This part was discussed because not everyone was happy how the transition from gitlab to gitea was handled. To prevent such issues in the future we dicided that larger changes which require the services users interaction (like migrating data to a new system in this example) should follow the following approval process so that everyone concerned is aware of these changes and the tasks which need to be done. * announce new project migration in plenum* do test-setup, communicate test environment via mail* discuss test results in plenum* decide whether migration should be done in plenum** + timeline for migration* announce migration to users (via email)
===Who should they be offered to?===
* zombi members
* mumble open for everyone
* git
* remark from bsod:
** no open data upload cause of possible misuse
* game servers:
** it should be easy to add external users to gameservers
** possible public listing of gameservers (e.g. gregtech wiki)
** users get whitelisted only after showing up on mumble to keep the number of trolls to a minimum
* shared steam accounts
** should be tested how easy it is to take over the account
** currently handed out on ad-hoc basis to people on mumble
* paul: open signup for zombi?
** central signup is necessary to avoid collisions when some services use local user databases and are open for registrations and others are closed (use central auth system)
** open signup without automatic account activation does not have a lot of benefits
** idea: maybe add an invite based system?
*** lod, steffen, mart, paul and bsod think this might be a good idea
*** possibility to generate invite links with specific permissions?
**** e.g. invite link for xmpp, gitlab
==sharing with the public==
===which no software things (if any) should be shared?===
* Recipes
* podcast
* Workshops
** Internal Workshops
** External Workshops
*** Replace Audio with subtitles/transcripts in videos?
===how would we share them?===
* make recipes public on the wiki
* media.zom.bi ?
* youtube
* pay for vimeo
* media.ccc.de offered to host interesting workshops if there are any
== What will zombi look like in 3 years? (continue) ==
=== mart ===
* About the same size, maybe a little more, don't grow like facebook
* more (public) workshops/Video tutorials/howtos
=== lod ===
* like the idea of making more public content
* invite more people to the gameservers
* avoid being a anonymous community
=== Paul ===
* Millions of workshops
* zombi Invite links go for >200Eur on the Black market
* Für die automatische Verwaltung der Cloud Infrastruktur stehen sämtliche Funktionen auch über eine entwicklerfreundliche REST-API sowie ein CLI-Tool zur Verfügung. Die umfangreiche Dokumentation mit Programmierbeispielen erleichtert den Einstieg.
=== Benny ===
* Exact same as my first estimation above
= Summary =
Turns out we could be more open. This might also help us to find more friends.
<blockquote>We should grow more as a simple circle of friends. Mostly we should share more of our knowledge, to find more likeminded people<br/>
~lod</blockquote>
<blockquote>Yo, what lod said.<br/>
~ bsod, mart, paul, steffen</blockquote>
= Member ideas =
Please add your Ideas as a new section below.
== [[User:cpp|cpp]] ==
